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Question Of The Day: Why does the IWC overrate Shawn Michaels so much?

I don’t think the IWC overrates Shawn Michaels, I think they just show respect to not only one of the most influential wrestlers of all time, but arguably one of the best in-ring performers we will ever see in our lifetimes. If you just started watching wrestling in the last few years then you might not see what the big fuss is all about, but to us fans that have grown up watching wrestling since the late 80’s, Shawn Michaels has grown and evolved right along with us. His career has spanned the course of some of the most memorable eras in the WWE and he is such an important part of professional wrestling history, that without him, wrestling as we know it wouldn’t be as mainstream as it is today.

While Shawn hasn’t had as much influence on pop culture as say a Hulk Hogan, he laid the foundation for the post WWF Hogan era where instead of focusing on the biggest steroid infused type wrestlers, Shawn Michaels, and smaller more agile wrestlers like him, forced the WWF to focus more on high quality wrestling matches instead of the gimmicks of the 80’s. He also changed the way wrestlers handled their business backstage. Shawn was good on the mic, in the ring, and his backstage political game was impeccable. He had stroke, he had skills and he had the ability to turn mere men into legends. He took a fairly popular midcard wrestler in Razor Ramon and pushed him to the upper echelon of wrestling superstardom. He took a big nobody whose career was doomed in WCW and turned him into the badass “Big Daddy Cool” Diesel. Guys like Bret and Owen Hart became better wrestlers because of their ability to go move for move with Shawn. He even made Psycho Sid look like a million bucks, and that is really saying something.

Shawn should also be credited for laying down the foundation for the Attitude Era. Without him, that era would have never existed. He was the one pushing for an edgier product while Vince McMahon thought it was a bad idea to move in that direction. Eventually Vince gave in and the rest is history. Sure, there has always been rebellious wrestlers, but none were more rebellious than Shawn Michaels. While wrestling purist didn’t appreciate what he was doing in the world of professional wrestling (e.g. Bret Hart), it brought about the biggest boom period of all time. He incorporated vulgarity into his promos. He was the first to tell people to suck his dick on national television. He was the first in wrestling to tell people to kiss his ass while pulling down his pants and showing you his bare naked ass to kiss.

Shawn did whatever the fuck he wanted to do and there was nobody that could have stopped him. There is no doubt in my mind that while Vince McMahon was the leader of his company, at the end of the day, he was nothing more than Shawn Michaels’ bitch. No one has pushed the envelope the way Shawn did. While he didn’t get to reap the rewards of the Attitude Era due to what we all thought was a career ending injury, without him, Superstars like “Stone Cold” Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H and others would have never reached the popularity they achieved if it wasn’t for Michaels’ laying down the foundation for the era they thrived in, and that includes WCW with the NWO. Speaking of WCW, one of the main reasons that I respect the hell out of Shawn Michaels is because when everyone was leaving the WWF for bigger paychecks in WCW, Shawn remained loyal to the company and helped the WWF make the changes needed to stay relevant and go head to head with the much more popular Ted Turner owned company.

Moving on, I think Shawn Michaels was one of the best heels in the history of the WWE, and my favorite versions of HBK were when he was under the management of Sensational Sherry and his original Degeneration X run, but his face turn in the mid 90’s was executed perfectly and really had me captivated as a fan. Because of that, when he came back to in-ring action in 2002 after a four-year hiatus, I was glad to see him come back as a face who had fought off all his demons during his time away. He found God, but more importantly, he never imposed his beliefs on his fans which I thought was pretty cool since I tend to hate preachy people with a passion of the Christ.

While your average wrestler would have slowed down in the ring, Shawn ended up performing at a high level and competed in some of the best matches of his career. I honestly don’t think I have ever seen a bad Shawn Michaels match. He is a perfectionist and brings out the best in all of his opponents. He can adapt to any wrestling style, has incredible stamina, and makes every single match of his an event that cannot be missed. So is Shawn Michaels overatted? Fuck no. He might be a hypocritical person in some of the things he has done and said in the past, but Shawn Michaels the wrestler is one of the greatest to ever do it.

And if you’re not down with that, then I got two words for ya:

  1. January 4, 2012 at 8:27 am

    The IWC DEFINITELY overrates Shawn Michaels. C’mon…not every Shawn Michaels WrestleMania match is a five-star classic. And some people were probably calling HBK-Taker at WM26 the match of the year without even seeing it. That WM26 match was so hyped that they could have put each other in headlocks for 20 minutes and it still would be everyone’s unanimous pick for Match of the Year? Do you know how I know HBK is overrated? Bring back John Morrison, have him face Kane, and have them do the HBK-Taker WM25 match spot-by-spot. It will get four stars for being a 30 minute RAW match but it won’t be match of the year.

    • January 4, 2012 at 8:38 am

      If you want to see overrated in the IWC read all the positive comments on Jericho’s return. People’s fanboyism refuses to let them admit that his return was wasted. Whether he trolled the fans nobody knows for sure, but everyone is making excuses for Jericho because JERICHO IS OVERRATED IN THE IWC and they refuse to admit they were disappointed in his return. As for Shawn Michaels, he is not overrated enough. His matches were always good to great and his matches against The Undertaker were in fact deserving of all the praise they received. Not only where the matches good for two wrestlers the age of Taker and Michaels, but their backstory leading up to the match was wonderfully done. The difference between John Morrison and Shawn Michaels is astronomical. Morrison has been a mid carder his whole career while Shawn is a fucking Hall of Famer. Maybe my fanboyism is kicking in, but Shawn is more important to wrestling as a whole than Jericho by a landslide. Jericho’s best moments only served the history of Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels best moments changed the landscape of professional wrestling as a whole. Wrestlemania’s just don’t feel the same without Mr. Wrestlemania.

      • January 4, 2012 at 8:41 am

        I’m just disappointed that the IWC was too busy blowing HBK to give an unbiased critique of any of his matches. I watched the two HBK-Taker matches…they were good but the best in WM history??? No way. They were the best of a mediocre PG era.

        • January 4, 2012 at 8:44 am

          Top 10 for sure.

          • January 4, 2012 at 8:56 am

            Nobody has had more quality matches at Wrestlemania than Shawn.

            vs Tito Santana WM 8
            vs Razor Ramon Ladder Match WM 10
            vs Diesel for the WWF Championship WM 11
            vs Bret Hart Iron Man Match WM 12
            vs Steve Austin (while injured) for the WWF Championship WM 14
            vs Chris Jericho WM 19
            vs Chris Benoit and Triple H WM 20
            vs Kurt Angle WM 21
            vs Vince McMahon WM 22
            vs Ric Flair WM 24
            vs Undertaker WM 25 & 26

            Those are my favorite HBK Wrestlemania matches and when it comes to quality nobody does Wrestlemania better than Shawn Michaels.

            Compare that to The Undertaker’s matches in the streak quality wise and Shawn Michaels comes out victorious as Mr. Wrestlemania. Come to think of it the streak should have been Shawn’s. Fuck.

            • January 4, 2012 at 11:03 pm

              THE INFAMOUS JCITY™ :
              Nobody has had more quality matches at Wrestlemania than Shawn.
              vs Tito Santana WM 8
              vs Razor Ramon Ladder Match WM 10
              vs Diesel for the WWF Championship WM 11
              vs Bret Hart Iron Man Match WM 12
              vs Steve Austin (while injured) for the WWF Championship WM 14
              vs Chris Jericho WM 19
              vs Chris Benoit and Triple H WM 20
              vs Kurt Angle WM 21
              vs Vince McMahon WM 22
              vs Ric Flair WM 24
              vs Undertaker WM 25 & 26
              Those are my favorite HBK Wrestlemania matches and when it comes to quality nobody does Wrestlemania better than Shawn Michaels.
              Compare that to The Undertaker’s matches in the streak quality wise and Shawn Michaels comes out victorious as Mr. Wrestlemania. Come to think of it the streak should have been Shawn’s. Fuck.

              Now I know you are being biased…his WM14 match vs. Stone Cold was average because he was hurt. I ordered the WM20 DVD…should get it tomorrow…I’m looking forward to seeing the HBK-HHH-Benoit match for the first time. Also looking forward to seeing WM20…I don’t own any of those matches.

              • January 5, 2012 at 4:23 am

                Not biased at all, ok maybe just a little, but he didn’t have to go through with the match, he wasn’t even medically cleared. That adds to the intrigue of the match. Plus I was in attendance so the whole match and post match action seemed epic. You gotta take in consideration that this is the same guy who lost his smile and relinquished the WWF Championship. He wanted to be the one to give Steve Austin the push he needed. As for WM 20 that triple threat match was kinda short so you might be disappointed in that regard but it’s still good and the post match celebration is awesome.

                • January 5, 2012 at 7:54 am

                  25 minutes is short?! I’m not a big fan of long epic matches. Got my DVDs this morning (it’s 6:52 AM right now). I also got WM X8, the out-of-print WWF version. I can’t wait to watch them. I also bought the Stone Cold DVD yesterday…the match commentaries are awesome.

                  • January 5, 2012 at 9:02 am

                    I thought it was ten minutes? Maybe I’m mistaken it for another match, it’s been a while since I last saw it. I should be getting the Stone Cold on Bluray tomorrow. Maybe I’ll write something on it. I still haven’t watched the Bret vs Shawn Bluray, been getting distracted.

      • January 4, 2012 at 8:43 am

        Oh…and I never said Jericho wasn’t overrated by the IWC. But Jericho was in my childhood more than HBK so I feel a stronger connection to him. HBK was hurt and trying to find Jesus when I was younger.

        • January 4, 2012 at 8:45 am

          Well, I did, and guess who Chris Jericho aspired to be like when he was coming up as a wrestler? That’s right, Shawn Michaels.

  2. Bret Hart
    January 4, 2012 at 10:06 am

    Shawn Michaels is overrated and I hope he dies.

  3. January 4, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    Great article. I still liked Jericho’s return. I don’t care what anyone says. Was I disappointed tho? Yep but I still liked it in the long run.

    I would agree that the IWC overrates Jericho tho cause I can see the points, however, I still enjoyed his return.

    As for HBK, I grew up with him and Bret Hart as my favorite wrestlers (HBK more) along with Undertaker and others so of course I don’t think he’s overrated.

    That’s probably the key. If you grew up with Michaels in his bumping crazy days or not.

    • January 4, 2012 at 7:32 pm

      My two favorites growing up were also Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart. It was so hard to pick a favorite between those two. Their kayfabe beef turned real life drama made the WWF must watch TV. I miss those days. Especially when Bret was becoming fed up with all the bullshit and Shawn started being an over the top disrespectful prick. Good times.

  4. Rob
    January 4, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    I appreciate everything he has done for the business and I’m happy that he finished up his career on a positive note but damn did I use to hate his guts back in the 90’s. I was more of a Bret Hart fan. Funny pics of him mimicking a blowjob and kicking John Cenas head off.

    • January 4, 2012 at 7:34 pm

      Yeah those pics are pretty damn funny. I can see how Shawn could have gotten under people’s skin, but as a heel, if you hated him that bad, then he did his job to perfection.

  5. January 4, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Michaels was pretty damn good.

    • January 4, 2012 at 7:36 pm

      The thing about him that stands out to me is that no matter what phase of his career you ended up seeing, he made sure to put on some high quality matches. The average wrestler’s wrestling skills deteriorate over time, but not Shawn’s.

  6. Chadam
    January 4, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    The IWC fucking overrates everybody. Jericho is without a doubt my all time favorite and even I was left unfulfilled with his return.

    • January 4, 2012 at 7:36 pm

      That’s because he ruined his return on purpose. Damn you JeriTROLL, damn you to HELL!!!

  7. Marty Jannetty
    January 4, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME. i was the one who Vince wanted to turn heel but i said “no let Shawn it will go no where anyways.” all of you should be saying im overrated when im not. I SHOULD TO BE WORLD CHAMPION!!! I SHOULD BE A HALL OF FAMER. I SHOULD BE MR WRESTLMANIA. I WANT MY LOLLYPOP.

    • January 4, 2012 at 6:13 pm

      Nobody likes a sore loser bro, ahaha.

    • January 4, 2012 at 7:41 pm

      Lmao. I don’t think Marty Jannetty would have had the same type of career if it was him that had went heel. He was destined to be a jobber. Shit, they tried to push Jannetty at the expense of Michaels, but Shawn was by far the superior athlete and better all around performer. Plus Jannetty looks like Donny Osmond and Leif Cassidy had a baby and nobody would have ever taken him serious as a World Champion.

  8. Capt. Smooth
    January 4, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    One of my favorite matches of HBK’s career was the 60 minute match with Cena on RAW, because NOBODY knew it was coming.

    • January 4, 2012 at 7:43 pm

      Good match, my 2 favorite Iron Man Matches are Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels because there was such a great build to it and the pay off was awesome and Brock Lesnar vs Kurt Angle. Damn did they have one of the most epic matches in Smackdown history.

      • Capt. Smooth
        January 4, 2012 at 7:59 pm

        I remember watching his very early stuff in World Class on ESPN.

        • January 4, 2012 at 11:07 pm

          Capt. Smooth :
          I remember watching his very early stuff in World Class on ESPN.

          I was watching an old Shawn Michaels match last night on ESPN Classic. The Midnight Rockers buried a nameless tag team.

          • Capt. Smooth
            January 5, 2012 at 5:49 am

            This was before then, when he was a jobber. Scary.

            • January 5, 2012 at 8:54 am

              I saw one match of his when he was a jobber in AWA on his DVD.

              • Capt. Smooth
                January 5, 2012 at 5:23 pm

                Anothere reason why I don’t think Ryder losing to Sheamus in 5 seconds means much.

                • January 6, 2012 at 5:14 am

                  Comparing Ryder to Shawn Michaels?!??!?!? You done lost your mind.

                  • Capt. Smooth
                    January 6, 2012 at 6:00 am

                    Both jobbed early in their careers. HBK went on to hace success, so why can’t Ryder. We don’t know what the future will bring.

                    • January 6, 2012 at 8:51 am

                      Everyone jobs at first, but Michaels was always a good worker, Ryder fucking sucks.

    • January 4, 2012 at 11:07 pm

      Capt. Smooth :
      One of my favorite matches of HBK’s career was the 60 minute match with Cena on RAW, because NOBODY knew it was coming.

      I got that match on DVD but it’s a little bit shorter with no commercial breaks. I liked his match with Cena at WM23. That match, the MITB CM Punk match, and the edge vs. Cena LMS Backlash 09 match are probably my three favorite Cena matches. Cena vs. HHH at WM 22 is an honorable mention.

      • January 5, 2012 at 4:33 am

        The greatest John Cena match ever was vs Edge at Unforgiven 2006

        • Capt. Smooth
          January 5, 2012 at 5:50 am

          I’ve been reading a thread at LOP asking about wrestling chemistry. That would be a good column idea.

          • January 5, 2012 at 8:56 am

            If it’s been done then I don’t want to do it.

            • Capt. Smooth
              January 5, 2012 at 5:24 pm

              People have done HBK columns before. Quick! Delete this one!

              • January 6, 2012 at 5:15 am

                I was answering a question.

                • Capt. Smooth
                  January 6, 2012 at 6:01 am

                  Excuses! Excuses! 🙂

                  • January 6, 2012 at 8:58 am

                    Seems that way, but I probably would have never delved into this topic had it not been asked.

                    • Capt. Smooth
                      January 6, 2012 at 7:48 pm

                      In that case…Which wrestlers do you think have had the best chemistry? My top choice would be Hornswoggle and Chavo.

  9. January 5, 2012 at 7:57 am

    THE INFAMOUS JCITY™ :
    Not biased at all, ok maybe just a little, but he didn’t have to go through with the match, he wasn’t even medically cleared. That adds to the intrigue of the match. Plus I was in attendance so the whole match and post match action seemed epic. You gotta take in consideration that this is the same guy who lost his smile and relinquished the WWF Championship. He wanted to be the one to give Steve Austin the push he needed. As for WM 20 that triple threat match was kinda short so you might be disappointed in that regard but it’s still good and the post match celebration is awesome.

    You were at WM14? I didn’t know that. I did enjoy that match and I want to watch it again because Shawn wasn’t selling Austin’s offense…the pain was real. That performance and Austin’s WM19 performance after being in the hospital are two of the best in WM history.

    • January 5, 2012 at 9:04 am

      That’s the only PPV I’ve ever been to. I loved it, but was too young to truly appreciate it the way I would if I was to go now.

      • Capt. Smooth
        January 5, 2012 at 5:26 pm

        Remember, me winning the lottery means the central group goes to a WM…and it’s all on me.

        • January 6, 2012 at 5:16 am

          I think you would all hate me if you met me at a live wrestling event. I’m super fucking loud and I can be very annoying, lol.

          • Capt. Smooth
            January 6, 2012 at 6:02 am

            I wouldn’t mind. I’d laugh my ass off. No drugs allowed, not that I’m assuming anything…

            • January 6, 2012 at 8:59 am

              I do all my drugs at home and then go to public events. I fit a profile so not risking having cops searching me or anything like that.

              • Capt. Smooth
                January 6, 2012 at 7:52 pm

                So, you’ll be a Gooooooood Jcity? I figure I’d fly everybody in a couple days before so you all can tour the city. All hotels, food, travel, and tickets would be on me. Prostitutes don’t count. lol

                • January 7, 2012 at 12:41 am

                  Not entirely good, but I know how to behave in public for the most part, lol.

                  • Capt. Smooth
                    January 7, 2012 at 11:27 am

                    cool…Wait! I’m talking like I’ve already won the damn thing! Oh, well. Might as well plan for when I win.

  10. January 6, 2012 at 8:15 am

    THE INFAMOUS JCITY™ :
    I thought it was ten minutes? Maybe I’m mistaken it for another match, it’s been a while since I last saw it. I should be getting the Stone Cold on Bluray tomorrow. Maybe I’ll write something on it. I still haven’t watched the Bret vs Shawn Bluray, been getting distracted.

    Let me know how the Blu-ray extras are like. I choose to save some money and buy the DVD. Speaking of the Stone Cold DVD, the change I got back after buying the DVD was $3.16…weird!

    Didn’t see the triple threat match yet, but I saw some of WM18. Watching a WWF DVD is so weird. I keep expecting to see the blurred logo but I never see it. It’s cool to hear “WWF” uncensored, hear Undertaker’s “Rollin'” entrance, and hear the original nWo song too. Completely unedited. And one of my WM 20 extras was “The Mania of WrestleMania”…I would definitely recommend to see it if you haven’t…awesome 43-minute documentary on WM19.

    • January 6, 2012 at 9:01 am

      The documentary is what I’m really looking forward too so if I write something it will be based on that and not the matches. I think the bluray has extra promos and an extra match or two.

      • January 6, 2012 at 9:10 pm

        the doc is all I really wanted too. That’s why I didn’t think the blu-ray was necessary to buy. I plan to watch the doc tomorrow. I got the WWE Best PPV Matches 2011 blu-ray today so I’m watching that tonight.

        • January 7, 2012 at 12:37 am

          I just got the Bluray because now that I have a LCD TV I can’t watch anything in standard definition. Ok so I got the Bluray in my hand as we speak and the extra features are 4 extra matches. No Mercy 99 vs Triple H and The Undertaker… RAW Oct 8, 2001 vs Kurt Angle… No Mercy 2001 vs Kurt Angle and RVD… Wrestlemania 19 vs The Rock… can’t wait to see the first 2 since I already seen the WM 19 match plenty of times already. Then the other features is like 6 extra promos and his Hall of Fame induction.

          • January 7, 2012 at 1:10 am

            I own the WM19 match, the HOF induction, and his WM25 “farewell”. I don’t really want to see 3 matches Stone Cold deemed not good enough for the DVD. So that left the question, “Do I want to spend $5 more for Stone Cold answering twitter questions and doing a WWE version of Cribs? The answer is no. In other news, disc 2 of my WWE PPV Matches Blu-ray may be defective so that sucks.

            • January 7, 2012 at 2:34 am

              I just can’t do standard DVDs. I need Bluray quality. I wish WWE would re-release most of their DVDs on Bluray so I could update my collection.

            • Anonymous
              January 12, 2012 at 3:29 pm

              Yes I had the same thing happen to me with my Blu-ray
              of WWE Best PPV Matches Of 2011, Disc 2 would not play,
              so I sent it back for a refund and I notified WWE about it,
              incase they may have to have a recall to fix the problem,
              hopefully future WWE Blu-rays won’t have this same problem.

  11. Capt. Smooth
    January 6, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    THE INFAMOUS JCITY™ :
    Everyone jobs at first, but Michaels was always a good worker, Ryder fucking sucks.

    No he doesn’t. What’s scary about Ryder is his age. He’s got plenty of time to grow as a performer. I’ve seen him improve sinse he’s been on tv more.

    • January 7, 2012 at 12:38 am

      Yes he does. He will never be an all time great.

      • Capt. Smooth
        January 7, 2012 at 11:28 am

        There wil be very few “HBK’s”, but we still don’t know where Ryder will end up.

        • January 7, 2012 at 6:21 pm

          He will end up right back in jobberville soon.

          • Capt. Smooth
            January 7, 2012 at 7:34 pm

            As soon as the A.D.D. fans turn on him.

            • January 8, 2012 at 11:56 pm

              You mean fans with any sense of what a real wrestling superstar should be. It’s the A.D.D fans that made Ryder relevant to begin with.

              • Capt. Smooth
                January 9, 2012 at 5:35 am

                They might’ve started it, but he has caught on with casual fans. Because he’s over with them, those same A.D.D. fans will turn against him.

                • January 9, 2012 at 11:53 am

                  No he hasn’t. Raw loses ratings when Ryder comes on. It’s the IWC faithful that show up to events and start chants and stuff. By the end of 2012 Ryder will be irrelevant or I will quit blogging.

                  • Capt. Smooth
                    January 9, 2012 at 6:42 pm

                    Well…give me back my jacket!

  12. January 7, 2012 at 12:41 am

    Capt. Smooth :

    In that case…Which wrestlers do you think have had the best chemistry? My top choice would be Hornswoggle and Chavo.

    You clever little bastard!

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